The last meatpackers in NYC’s Meatpacking District are getting ready to say goodbye

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Here is a featured story courtesy of The Associated Press.

When John Jobbagy’s grandfather immigrated from Budapest in 1900, he joined a throng of European butchers chopping up and shipping off meat in a loud, smelly corner of Manhattan that New Yorkers called the Meatpacking District.

Today only a handful of meatpackers remain, and they’re preparing to say goodbye to a very different neighborhood, known more for its high-end boutiques and expensive restaurants than the industry that gave it its name.

Jobbagy and the other tenants in the district’s last meat market have accepted a deal from the city to move out so the building can be redeveloped, the culmination of a decades-long transformation.

“The neighborhood I grew up in is just all memories,” said Jobbagy, 68. “It’s been gone for over 20 years.”

In its heyday, it was a gritty hub of over 200 slaughterhouses and packing plants at the intersection of shipping and train lines, where meat and poultry were unloaded, cut and moved quickly to markets. Now the docks are recreation areas and an abandoned freight line is the High Line park. The Whitney Museum of American Art moved from Madison Avenue next to Jobbagy’s meat company in 2015.

Some of the new retailers maintain reminders of the neighborhood’s meat-packing past. At the exposed brick entrance to an outlet of fashion brand Rag & Bone, which sells $300 leather belts, is a carefully restored sign from a previous occupant, “Dave’s Quality Veal,” in red and white hand-painted lettering.

Another sign for a wholesale meat supplier appears on a long building awning outside Samsung’s U.S. flagship phone store.

But the neighborhood no longer sounds, smells or feels like the place where Jobbagy began working for his father in the late 1960s. He worked through high school and college summers before going into business for himself.

Back then, meatpackers kept bottles of whiskey in their lockers to stay warm inside the refrigerated plants. Outside, “it reeked,” he said, especially on hot days near the poultry houses where chicken juices spilled into the streets.

People only visited the neighborhood if they had business, usually transacting in handshake deals, he said.

Slowly but surely, meatpacking plants began closing or moving out of Manhattan as advances in refrigeration and packaging enabled the meat industry to consolidate around packing plants in the Midwest, many of which can butcher and package more than 5,000 steers in a day and ship directly to supermarkets.

Starting in the 1970s, a new nightlife scene emerged as bars and nightclubs moved in, many catering to the LGBTQ+ community. Sex clubs and slaughterhouses coexisted. And as the decades wore on, the drag queens and club kids began giving way to fashion designers and restaurateurs.

By 2000, “Sex and The City” character Samantha had left her Upper East Side apartment for a new home in the Meatpacking District. By the show’s final 2003 season, she was outraged to see a Pottery Barn slated to open near a local leather bar.

Another turning point came with the 2009 opening of the High Line, on a defunct rail track originally built in the 1930s. The popular greenway is now flanked by hotels, galleries and luxury apartment buildings.

Jobbagy said his father died five years before the opening and would be baffled at what it looks like now.

“If I told him that the elevated railroad was going to be turned into a public park, he never would have believed it,” he said.

But the area has changed constantly, noted Andrew Berman, executive director of local architectural preservation group Village Preservation.

“It wasn’t always a meatpacking district. It was a sort of wholesale produce district before that, and it was a shipping district before that,” Berman said. In the early 1800s, Fort Gansevoort stood there. “So it’s had many lives and it’s going to continue to have new lives.”

Though an exact eviction date for the last meat market has not been set, some of the other companies will relocate elsewhere.

Not Jobbagy, who has held on by supplying high-end restaurants and the few retail stores that still want fresh hanging meat. He’ll retire, along with his brother and his employees, most of them Latino immigrants who trained with him and saved up to buy second homes in Honduras, Mexico or the Dominican Republic. Some want to move to other industries, in other states.

He expects to be the last meatpacker standing when the cleaver finally falls on Gansevoort Market.

“I’ll be here when this building closes, when everybody, you know, moves on to something else,” Jobbagy said. “And I’m glad I was part of it and I didn’t leave before.”

Another bit of New York City history says good-bye!

Tony

Going to Confession to an “AI Jesus” – Tests your faith in machines!

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— Would you trust an “AI Jesus” with your innermost thoughts and troubles?

Researchers and religious leaders on Wednesday released findings from a two-month experiment in a Catholic chapel in Switzerland, where an avatar of “Jesus” on a computer screen — tucked into a confessional — took questions by visitors on faith, morality and modern-day woes, and offered responses based on Scripture.

The idea, said the chapel’s theological assistant, was to recognize the growing importance of artificial intelligence in human lives, even when it comes to religion, and explore the limits of human trust in a machine.  As reported by The Associated Press.

After the two-month run of the “Deus in Machina” exhibit at Peter’s Chapel starting in late August, some 900 conversations from visitors –- some came more than once –- were transcribed anonymously. Those behind the project said it was largely a success: Visitors often came out moved or deep in thought, and found it easy to use.

A small sign invited visitors to enter a confessional -– chosen for its intimacy –- and below a lattice screen across which penitent believers would usually speak with a priest, a green light signaled the visitor’s turn to speak, and a red one came on when “AI Jesus” on a computer screen on the other side was responding.

Often, a lag time was needed to wait for the response – a testament to the technical complexities. After exiting, nearly 300 visitors filled out questionnaires that informed the report released Wednesday.

Of love, war, suffering and solitude

Philipp Haslbauer, an IT specialist at the Lucerne University of Applied Sciences and Arts who pulled together the technical side of the project, said the AI responsible for taking the role of “AI Jesus” and generating responses was GPT-4o by OpenAI, and an open-source version of the company’s Whisper was used for speech comprehension.

An AI video generator from Heygen was used to produce voice and video from a real person, he said. Haslbauer said no specific safeguards were used “because we observed GPT-4o to respond fairly well to controversial topics.”

Visitors broached many topics, including true love, the afterlife, feelings of solitude, war and suffering in the world, the existence of God, plus issues like sexual abuse cases in the Catholic Church or its position on homosexuality.

Most visitors described themselves as Christians, though agnostics, atheists, Muslims, Buddhists and Taoists took part too, according to a recap of the project released by the Catholic parish of Lucerne.

About one-third were German speakers, but “AI Jesus” — which is conversant in about 100 languages — also had conversations in languages like Chinese, English, French, Hungarian, Italian, Russian and Spanish.

‘Work of the Devil’?

“What was really interesting (was) to see that the people really talked with him in a serious way. They didn’t come to make jokes,” said chapel theologian Marco Schmid, who spearheaded the project. Most visitors were aged 40 to 70, and more Catholics respondents found the experience stimulating than did Protestants, the report showed.

Schmid was quick to point out that the “AI Jesus” – billed as a “Jesus-like” persona – was an experiment to get people thinking about the intersection between the digital and the divine, not substitute for human interaction or sacramental confessions with a priest, nor was it intended to save pastoral resources.

“For the people it was clear that it was a computer … It was clear it was not a confession,” Schmid said. “He wasn’t programmed to give absolutions or prayers. At the end, it was more summary of the conversation.”

The Catholic Church from the Vatican on down has been wrestling with the challenges –- and possible opportunities -– presented by the explosion in public interest in AI since generative artificial intelligence captured the world’s attention two years ago when OpenAI’s ChatGPT made its debut.

The Vatican has appointed a friar from a medieval Franciscan order as its top expert on AI, and a Lutheran church in Bavaria served up sermons delivered by a chatbot last year. Pope Francis, in his annual peace message for this year, pushed for an international treaty to ensure the ethical use of AI technology.

Chatbots like ChatGPT are powered by algorithmic models trained on vast pools of text and other data to mimic speech and generate seemingly unique and human-like responses.

Haslbauer is sensitive to public reaction and has noted chatter on social media saying the project is “blasphemous” or the “work of the devil.”

“If you read comments on the internet about it, some are very negative — which is scary,” Haslbauer, whose long-haired look featured as a basis for the image of the virtual Jesus.

In a demonstration of the technology in the chapel, Haslbauer queried “AI Jesus” about its message for a troubled world, and about whether AI could be helpful as a way for people to find God.

“All knowledge and wisdom ultimately come from God,” the chatbot said in a soothing voice, after a pause to respond, and the image briefly crackled. “If used wisely, AI can indeed be a tool to explore the wonders of creation, deepen our understanding of Scripture, and foster connections among people.”

“Yet it remains essential to seek God with all your heart and soul beyond any technology,” it added.

A good side, and downsides

Kenneth Cukier, a journalist, author and expert with the U.S.-based nonprofit group called “AI and Faith,” said if “AI Jesus” helps people connect deeper to themselves and the world, it “has to be a good thing.”

“It will lead to better individuals and a better world,” he said. “However — and there’s a big however — this does feel a little bit infantile, and pardon my pun, machine-like.”

“The risk is that it pulls people, ultimately, farther away from that which is more meaningful, deeper and authentic in spirituality,” said Cukier, co-author of “Big Data: A Revolution that Will Transform How We Work, Live and Think.”

For Schmid, the exhibit was a pilot project — and he doesn’t foresee a second coming of “AI Jesus” anytime soon.

“For us, it was also clear it was just a limited time that we will expose this Jesus,” he said, adding that any return would need to be done after deeper thought.

“We are discussing … how we could revive him again,” he said, noting interest from parishes, schoolteachers, researchers and others as the project got media attention in Switzerland and beyond. “They all are interested and would like to have this ‘AI Jesus’. So we have now a little bit to reflect on how we want to continue.”

Can I hear an “AI Amen”!

Tony

 

Australia Has Barred Everyone Under 16 From Social Media. Will It Work and Will Other Countries Follow?

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Dear Commons Community,

Australia has imposed a sweeping ban on social media for children under 16, one of the world’s most comprehensive measures aimed at safeguarding young people from potential hazards online. The law sets a minimum age for users of platforms like TikTok, Instagram and X. How the restriction will be enforced  remains an open question.  As reported by The New York Times.

After sailing through Parliament’s lower house on Wednesday, the bill passed the Senate on yesterday with bipartisan support. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has said that it puts Australia at the vanguard of efforts to protect the mental health and well-being of children from detrimental effects of social media, such as online hate or bullying.

The law, he has said, puts the onus on social media platforms to take “reasonable steps” to prevent anyone under 16 from having an account. Corporations could be fined up to 49.5 million Australian dollars (about $32 million) for “systemic” failures to implement age requirements.

Neither underage users nor their parents will face punishment for violations. And whether children find ways to get past the restrictions is beside the point, Mr. Albanese said.

“We know some kids will find workarounds, but we’re sending a message to social media companies to clean up their act,” he said in a statement this month.

As with many countries’ regulations on alcohol or tobacco, the law will create a new category of “age-restricted social media platforms” accessible only to those 16 and older. How that digital carding will happen, though, is a tricky question.

The law specifies that users will not be forced to provide government identification as part of the verification process, a measure that the conservative opposition said was included after they raised concerns about privacy rights.

It is also not clear exactly which platforms will be covered by the ban. The prime minister has said that Snapchat, TikTok, Instagram and X will be included, but YouTube and messaging apps including WhatsApp are expected to be exempt.

France last year passed a law requiring parental consent for social media users under 15, and it has been pushing for similar measures across the European Union. Florida imposed a ban for users under 14 and required parental consent for 14- and 15-year-olds that goes into effect next year, but that law is expected to face constitutional challenges.

It will be interesting to see if other countries follow suit!

Tony

It Rained on Our Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade – Still a Wet and Joyful Event!

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The Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade marched, soared and roared into its second century yesterday despite a drenching rain.  One estimate had over 3 million people lining the parade route with another 15 million watching on TV.

Thanks to the wet weather, ponchos and umbrellas were part of the festivities, along with the usual giant balloons, floats and star-studded performances.

The latest edition of the annual holiday tradition featured new Spider-Man and Minnie Mouse balloons, zoo and pasta-themed floats, an ode to Big Apple coffee and bagels, performances from Jennifer Hudson, Idina Menzel and Kylie Minogue, and more.  As reported by  various news media.

The lineup was a far cry from the parade’s initial incarnation 100 years ago, which featured floats showing scenes from Mother Goose, Red Riding Hood and the Wolf, Miss Muffet and the Spider, and other fairy tales. 

Some things remained the same, though. As in 1924, there were plenty of marching bands and lots of clowns, followed by the grand finale of Santa Claus ushering in the holiday season.

This year’s parade featured 17 giant, helium-filled character balloons, 22 floats, 15 novelty and heritage inflatables, 11 marching bands from as far away as Texas and South Dakota, 700 clowns, 10 performance groups, award-winning singers and actors, and the WNBA champion New York Liberty.

Other highlights included reality TV star Ariana Madix, hip-hop’s T-Pain, country duo Dan + Shay, The War and Treaty, The Temptations, Jimmy Fallon & The Roots, Broadway veteran Lea Salonga, and “Glow” actor and Macy’s spokesperson Alison Brie.

One new float spotlighted the Rao’s food brand, featuring a knight and a dragon in battle made with actual pasta elements. Another celebrated the Bronx Zoo’s 125th anniversary with representations of a tiger, a giraffe, a zebra and a gorilla.

“The work that we do, the opportunity to impact millions of people and bring a bit of joy for a couple of hours on Thanksgiving morning, is what motivates us every day,” said Will Coss, Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade executive producer.

The parade route stretched 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) from Manhattan’s Upper West Side to Macy’s Herald Square flagship store on 34th Street, which served as a performance backdrop.

NBC’s Al Roker walked part of the route before joining co-hosts Savannah Guthrie and Hoda Kotb outside the store for the remainder of the live TV coverage. “Wicked” film star Cynthia Erivo presented the retiring Kotb with flowers to commemorate what could be her last parade broadcast.

The rain didn’t stop anything — the parade has only been canceled three times, from 1942 to 1944 during World War II — but organizers monitored wind speeds to make sure the big balloons were safe to fly.

Temperatures hovered near 50 degrees F (10 degrees C), with rain throughout the morning and winds around 10 mph (16 kph), well within the acceptable range for letting Snoopy, Bluey and their friends soar. City law prohibits Macy’s from flying full-size balloons if sustained winds exceed 23 mph (37 kph) or wind gusts are over 35 mph (56 kph).

The Thanksgiving Day Parade is special to me.  When I was a young toddler, my older brother Donald would bring me and my brother, Peter, on the subway (we did not own a car) to see the parade.  Besides the floats, balloons and Santa Claus, we waited anxiously to see our father, Amadeo, who in order to make a few extra dollars worked as a one of the clowns for Macys. 

Tony

 

Rudy Giuliani Goes on a Wild Rant at Judge in Defamation Hearing!

Rudy Giuliani outside a Manhattan courthouse yesterday. Credit…Sarah Yenesel/EPA, via Shutterstock

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Former  New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani was in federal court in Manhattan yesterday to discuss his continuing failure to give up nearly $11 million worth of personal assets. The forfeiture was meant as a down payment on the $148 million Mr. Giuliani owes to two Georgia election workers for defaming them by claiming, without evidence, that they had helped to steal the 2020 presidential election.

But first, Judge Lewis Liman allowed Mr. Giuliani’s lawyers to withdraw from the case. They had requested to be removed two weeks ago, citing an unspecified “professional ethics” concern.  As reported by The New York Times.

“I’m sorry it came to this,” Kenneth Caruso, one of Mr. Giuliani’s lawyers, said before he and his co-counsel left the hearing.

In a statement on Tuesday, Mr. Caruso said that there had been “a difference of opinion” with Mr. Giuliani but they wished his new counsel “every success.”

The focus then shifted to Mr. Giuliani’s new lawyer, Joseph M. Cammarata, a former police officer. The men forged a relationship after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, when Mr. Cammarata’s brother, a firefighter, was killed.

Mr. Cammarata, who has been involved in the case for just over a week, asked that Mr. Giuliani’s trial, which is scheduled for Jan. 16, be delayed to determine whether the former mayor could keep his condominium in Florida and several custom-made Yankees World Series rings.

Mr. Cammarata said the delay was necessary because he also had to prepare for a December court appearance in Washington, where Mr. Giuliani could be found in contempt of court for continuing to make false accusations about the two Georgia poll workers, Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss.

Also, Mr. Cammarata said, Mr. Giuliani would like to attend President-elect Donald J. Trump’s inauguration on Jan. 20, and a trial could prevent that.

The answer, Judge Liman said, was no.

The hourlong hearing, punctuated by an angry outburst by Mr. Giuliani, was the most contentious yet in the winding search for his personal assets, which he was ordered to hand over to the two women more than a month ago.

For the first time in weeks, the strain of several cases stemming from Mr. Giuliani’s time as Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer appeared to be getting to him, as he sat slumped back in his chair with his arms crossed.

After missing several deadlines to surrender the bulk of his assets, Mr. Giuliani has only turned over a fraction of notable items, including some pieces from his luxury watch collection and a 1980 Mercedes-Benz convertible that he says once belonged to the actress Lauren Bacall. But Mr. Giuliani still has not provided the keys or the title to the vehicle.

The former mayor has begun the transfer of his most valuable asset, a 10-room apartment on Manhattan’s Upper East Side that had been listed for sale at more than $6 million. The process has been delayed because the property remains jointly held with his ex-wife, Judith Giuliani.

The scant items that have been surrendered are problematic, according to Judge Liman.

“The car without the keys and title is meaningless,” he said, cutting off Mr. Cammarata midsentence.

“Your client is a competent person,” the judge added, noting that Mr. Giuliani was a former U.S. attorney. (He was, however, recently disbarred in New York and Washington, D.C.)

Mr. Giuliani objected.

“I have applied for the title,” he said of the Mercedes. “I haven’t gotten it yet. What am I supposed to do, make it up myself?”

He continued.

“I don’t have a car,” he said in a raised voice. “I don’t have a credit card. I don’t have cash.” He complained that he didn’t “have a penny” that was not tied up by Ms. Freeman and Ms. Moss.

Judge Liman warned Mr. Giuliani to let his new lawyer speak for him.

“Somebody has to tell the truth!” Mr. Giuliani shot back.

“Next time, he’s not going to be permitted to speak,” Judge Liman told Mr. Cammarata. “And the court will have to take action.”

The women’s lawyers described their frustration in trying to recover Mr. Giuliani’s property, much of which is in a storage facility in Ronkonkoma, N.Y., on Long Island.

Aaron Nathan, one of the women’s lawyers, said Mr. Giuliani’s compliance had been “lackadaisical at best, and intentionally obstructive at worst.”

Last week, the women’s lawyers said that more than 20 pallets of moving boxes belonging to Mr. Giuliani were still at the storage facility, America First Warehouse, and that the owners were making it difficult to search the contents.

A facility representative, who calls himself “Joe the Box” on social media, posted a defiant video on X in which he expressed support for Mr. Giuliani and said he would not stand for someone to “dissect” the former mayor’s life.

Last Friday, Judge Liman ordered Mr. Giuliani to account for all of the property at the facility that was subject to seizure and to deliver it to a warehouse of the women’s choosing by Dec. 13.

If Mr. Giuliani continues to miss deadlines in the case, he could face steep penalties, including jail time. There could be similar consequences in Washington, where a judge will decide in December if the former mayor has violated an order not to defame the women by accusing them again of election fraud on recent media appearances.

Giuliani has become such a pathetic figure!

Tony

CUNY Chancellor Felix Matos Rodriguez Scorched at NYC Council Hearing on Antisemitism!

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New York City Council members slammed CUNY Chancellor Felix Matos Rodriguez Monday after he was unable to answer questions about the steps he is taking to fight antisemitism at the university.  As reported by the New York Daily News.

“I do think it is outrageous that when we’re having this hearing on such an important topic, that the most rudimentary questions you’ve been unable to answer,” said Councilwoman Julie Menin (D-Manhattan), part of its Jewish caucus. “It’s not enough just to show up.”

The issue has become a source of friction since last spring’s pro-Palestinian protests against the war in Gaza roiled college campuses across the city. The Council hearing came two months after the release of a high-profile report critical of current policies to combat antisemitism.

Over three hours on Monday, CUNY Chancellor Felix Matos Rodriguez tried to assure the Committee on Higher Education that CUNY is making progress on a number of recommendations from September by former chief judge Jonathan Lippman, including an overhauled anti-discrimination portal where students can lodge complaints.

But Council members repeatedly chided top CUNY officials for coming unprepared to answer their questions. Neither the chancellor nor his deputies were able to say how many complaints had been made since the portal’s inception, or what was the most common form of discrimination on campus.

The independent review was ordered by Gov. Hochul in the aftermath of Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel, as tensions boiled over on New York campuses. In the report, Lippman found CUNY’s online reporting portal was “ineffective” and “operates as a black box,” where people seldom know if their complaints are being addressed or even considered. Students echoed those concerns during the hearing, saying they have been openly targeted with harmful stereotypes or excluded because of their backgrounds.

“I know the frustration of being ignored when incidents get reported. I saw no reprimand for these actions and was left feeling invisible and unsupported by my administration,” said Maya Gavriel, a Jewish student at Baruch College, where a building was vandalized last month with the message: ‘OCT 7 IS FOREVER’ before the anniversary of Hamas’ attacks.

Adding to their concerns that little action was being taken, administrators declined to share student and staff disciplinary data. Congress made similar requests of university presidents during campus antisemitism hearings last school year, sparking tensions between college administrations and their faculty who said it violated academic freedom.

During the hearing, Matos Rodriguez announced CUNY planned to release a request for proposals later that day to improve its in-house reporting portal. The updated tool, expected to be live this summer, will provide regular updates on the statuses of complaints, he said. But the chancellor cautioned the technology is only half of the problem.

“We need additional resources to be able to have more individuals out there, investigating the complaints so that we can get back on a timely manner to our students, to our faculty and staff,” he said. “So, technology is part of the equation, but we also are going to need additional personnel to do this, no matter how effective the technology might be.”

At least one elected councilwoman seemed more keen on taking funding away. Councilwoman Inna Vernikov (R-Brooklyn), who last year brought a gun to a pro-Palestine protest at Brooklyn College, threatened to work with President-elect Trump to keep the public university system in line.

“We should be more afraid of the incoming administration that promised to defund and take away accreditation from any universities that don’t deal with antisemitism on their campuses,” Vernikov said, “and I look forward to working with that administration to highlight the issues at City University of New York.”

Over the past two years, CUNY has invested $1.3 million in campus programs to combat hate, including $550,000 provided by the Council, Matos Rodriguez said during the hearing.

Among the legislative body’s investments was an effort to scale up constructive dialogue trainings for CUNY students and faculty and staff.

The chancellor also referenced a freedom of expression working group, previewed last week during his yearly State of the University address.

“I think in your heart, you know this is an important issue,” Councilman Eric Dinowitz (D-Bronx), chairman of the Higher Education Committee, told Matos Rodriguez. “But with that, this hearing is not about what’s in your heart. It’s about CUNY policies, and the policies that have so far failed to meaningfully keep our students safe and make them feel welcome on our CUNY campuses.”

It is not good for CUNY for its leaders to come across as unprepared to discuss critical questions about an issue  such as antisemitism nor is it beneficial for our university to appear to make any students feel unwelcome.

Tony

 

Is MSNBC for Sale?  If so, Elon Musk may be interested!

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Rumors have it that MSNBC may be for sale.  If so, Elon Musk and other billionaires may be interested. As reported by Brian Stelter of CNN.

Elon Musk floats buying MSNBC, but he’s not the only billionaire who may be interested

Elon Musk once called MSNBC “the utter scum of the Earth.” He has said the channel “peddles puerile propaganda.” Just a few days ago he said, “MSNBC is going down.” And now he is posting memes about buying the channel.

Conventional wisdom holds that Musk — the world’s richest man and key Donald Trump ally — and his friends are just joking. But Musk’s posts are adding to the anxiety that MSNBC staffers are feeling about the reelection of Donald Trump and the recently announced spinoff of Comcast’s cable channels.

I (Stelter) spent Sunday on the phone with sources to gauge what might be going on. I learned that more than one benevolent billionaire with liberal bonafides has already reached out to acquaintances at MSNBC to express interest in buying the cable channel. The inbound interest was reassuring, one of the sources said, since it showed that oppositional figures like Musk (who famously bought Twitter to blow it up) would not be the only potential suitors.

But contrary to claims that Trump’s allies are posting on X, Comcast has not put a “for sale” sign on MSNBC’s door. If Comcast chief Brian Roberts really wanted to sell the liberal cable news channel, he could have done that already. Instead, he is moving MSNBC and a half dozen other cable channels into “SpinCo,” a pure-play cable programming company. The hope is that spinning off the pressured-but-profitable channels will boost shares of both Comcast and “SpinCo.”

Comcast says the transaction will take about a year. At that point, could someone swoop in with a bid for MSNBC? It’s complicated. “SpinCo” is structured as a tax-free spinoff, and immediately divesting an asset would have tax implications that could forestall any such sale.

“Typically, we would expect a two-year waiting period before any potential further strategic action by the SpinCo to preserve the tax-free nature of the spin although we believe there are scenarios where industry consolidation including SpinCo could happen earlier,” analyst Benjamin Swinburne of Morgan Stanley wrote in a note to investors last week. (Morgan Stanley is a financial advisor to Comcast.)

Plus, “SpinCo” executives may well conclude that offloading MSNBC is not in the best interest of shareholders, since the channel’s loyal audience is a form of leverage in negotiations with cable distributors. Executives involved with the spinoff say they intend to be predators, not prey – buying new channels, not selling off old ones bit by bit.

Selling MSNBC to win favor with the president-elect is simply not the plan. I have sensed quite a bit of enthusiasm at MSNBC about “SpinCo,” actually, because the new structure should allow for more investment into MSNBC, CNBC and the other brands.

Musk’s allies pile on

That said, Musk’s posts shouldn’t be ignored. He famously foreshadowed his pursuit of Twitter with a tweet that asked, “How much is it?” On Friday, he similarly asked of MSNBC, “How much does it cost?” He was responding to Donald Trump, Jr., who posted a meme that (falsely) said MSNBC is for sale and wrote, “Hey @elonmusk I have the funniest idea ever!!!”

Joe Rogan jumped in and said, “If you buy MSNBC I would like Rachel Maddow’s job.” (He misspelled her name.) “I will wear the same outfit and glasses, and I will tell the same lies.” The trio’s fans ate it up, and Musk kept posting about the idea all weekend long, at one point promoting a homophobic meme that equated Maddow with Mark Cuban.

By Sunday, Trump Jr. wrote, “I think I started something here. The amount of people that want this to happen is incredible!!!!” Former Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz replied, “I 100 percent want this to happen.” The mockery is the point, and maybe it’s nothing more than that.

The ‘media capture’ model

While Musk and his friends trade memes and crack each other up, there’s a serious undercurrent here. It’s known as “media capture.” This happened in Hungary when far-right prime minister Viktor Orbán’s “close allies also purchased private television and radio outlets to convert them into pro-government outlets,” CNN reported earlier this month.

“Media capture” is a subset of what Protect Democracy executive director Ian Bassin calls “autocratic capture,” where “the government uses its power to enforce loyalty from the private sector.” On a recent episode of Vanity Fair’s “Inside the Hive,” Bassin said “I think we are in danger of seeing that happen across the American marketplace in all sorts of sectors.”

Gábor Scheiring, a former member of the Hungarian parliament, wrote in a new essay for Politico Magazine that Orbán “consolidated media control through centralized propaganda, market pressure and loyal billionaires.” In the US, he wrote, “liberal-minded billionaires should not sit idly by as they did in Hungary, watching the right take over the media.”

Would Cuban, a key billionaire surrogate for Vice President Kamala Harris, have any interest in MSNBC? I asked him Sunday night. “I don’t think there is anything anyone can do to change the impact of linear TV news. So the answer is no,” Cuban replied. “People feel like MSNBC is not doing enough to rival Fox. I don’t see that. What could they do differently? Manufacture conspiracy theories? Go all in on crypto?”

Cuban added: “I would rather promote Bluesky and hope it helps them aggregate audience, and create a network affect that gives agency to all viewpoints. I think with the addition of real time news and sports, it could give Twitter a run for its money.”

This would be a most interesting development in cable news land!

Tony

Labor Unions on the Rise in Colleges and Universities!

New York Universtiy graduate teaching assistants go on strike demanding that the university recognize their right to collectively bargain for higher pay as members of the UAW.  James Leynse via Getty Images

Dear Commons Community,

A wave of labor organizing has been washing through U.S. universities as graduate students and other workers form new unions on campus.

More than 50,000 students who work at U.S. universities have unionized over the past two years, the National Labor Relations Board announced last week. The new bargaining units include graduate student teachers and researchers as well as undergraduate housing and dining employees.

The campaigns have led to some of the biggest union elections in years, adding to the ranks of the Service Employees International Union, the United Auto Workers and other unions better known for representing blue-collar employees. Though not as high-profile as organizing pushes at the likes of Amazon and Starbucks, the campus victories have been a bright spot for organized labor after decades of declining membership.  As reported by The Huffington Post.

Last year, more than 3,000 student-workers at Cornell University joined the United Electrical Workers, while 1,600 at Emory University joined Workers United, the same union that now represents thousands of Starbucks baristas.

“The collegiate organizing efforts have gotten a boost from favorable policies at the NLRB, but those policies may not last following former President Donald Trump’s victory this month.”

This year, 1,400 student-workers at the California Institute of Technology and another 4,000 at the University of Pennsylvania joined the UAW. The Detroit-based union now includes around 100,000 workers in higher ed, amounting to about a quarter of its membership.

All told,  51 new unions formed on campuses since 2022, representing roughly 50,300 workers, according to the NLRB. For context, the Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that the entire labor movement added 139,000 members last year, much of it likely due to hiring by employers that were already unionized.

The collegiate organizing efforts have gotten a boost from favorable policies at the NLRB, which oversees private-sector union elections. But those policies may not last following former President Donald Trump’s victory this month.

In 2016, the then-Democratic majority on the labor board ruled in a case at Columbia University that students who teach and do research qualify as employees under the law and therefore have collective bargaining rights. The decision spurred new organizing efforts at schools where graduate students didn’t already have union representation.

A Republican-led board of Trump appointees later began an effort to reverse the Columbia case, but it failed to finish the job before another Democratic majority took over under President Joe Biden. However, Trump will have another chance to install new board members in his next administration, and they are not expected to be nearly as union-friendly as Biden’s.

If the agency ends up restricting union rights on college campuses, graduate students and other workers could still unionize — just not under the normal NLRB election process. They may end up trying to force universities to recognize their unions voluntarily, perhaps through strikes or other public pressure campaigns.

Tony

Mikhail Zygar: Putin Sees America Hurtling to Disaster, With Trump at the Wheel

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Dear Commons Community,

Mikhail Zygar, a Russian journalist and author, had a provocative guest essay in yesterday’s New York Times entitled, “Putin Sees America Hurtling to Disaster, With Trump at the Wheel”.  He makes the case that the 2020 presidential election results gave Vladimir Putin pause to believe that the United States might be on the verge of collapse due to a President Trump.  Here is an excerpt.

“The American election results were received with enthusiasm in Moscow. President Vladimir Putin, offering his congratulations, seemed genuinely pleased. But it’s not because Donald Trump is seen as a pro-Russian politician or even one of their own — those illusions faded long ago. Nor is it the prospect of an advantageous peace deal in Ukraine, ruthlessly brokered by Mr. Trump. The first reported call between the two leaders, which the Kremlin denies took place, suggests that the incoming administration will be no pushover.

Instead, the excitement comes from something else. It’s that to many in the Kremlin, a Trump presidency might bring about the collapse of the American state.

The idea that the United States is entering the final stage of its history has been kicking around Russia for some time. For years, it was confined to fringe voices. But since around 2020, figures from the Kremlin have been making the argument, too. Leading the charge was Nikolai Patrushev, a former director of the Federal Security Service and one of Mr. Putin’s key advisers. Widely regarded as Russia’s leading hard-liner, he was among the first to claim that America was on an inexorable path to implosion.

In a 2023 interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the official publication of the Russian government, Mr. Patrushev detailed what that would look like. The United States would split into North and South, with the South moving “toward Mexico, whose lands were seized by Americans in 1848,” he said. “Make no mistake, sooner or later, the southern neighbors of the United States will reclaim the territories taken from them.”

By then, Mr. Putin himself had laid out a similar view of territorial disintegration. “As a former citizen of the former Soviet Union, I’ll tell you the problem with empires: They believe they are so powerful that they can afford minor mistakes,” he said in 2021. “But the problems accumulate, and a moment comes when they are no longer manageable. The United States is confidently, firmly marching down the same path as the Soviet Union.” This still seems to represent Mr. Putin’s fundamental assessment of the country. He is convinced that America is nearing its end.”

The entire article, as ominous as it is, is worth a read.

Tony